Oh yeah. Russia is the source of all your troubles. Please tell me more about how you didn’t fuck up your own election.
Oh yeah.
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Oh yeah. Russia is the source of all your troubles. Please tell me more about how you didn’t fuck up your own election.
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easy – no one believed me, when I was telling every one, including you, and you much much more smart than average American
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I remain skeptical.
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Are you skeptical that I was right? Or you skeptical that you smarter, than most Americans? If you forgot our conversation: https://goo.gl/ZRF8EX I was warning you about potential devastation. Looking back, margin of error was 70k votes between 3 states. On a very election day, I had conversation with one guy, who were suggesting to vote for Bernie Sanders, I am sure a lot of Bernie supporters voted for Trump, in protest.
FYI we are now in deep shit, and to get out from here will not be easy.
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John Hardy not a Turnbull fan I’m waiting for them to blame it on sunspots, because there’s obviously no possible way that it could be due to running the single most unpopular Dem candidate in recorded history. /s
Speaking of bizarre Dem blame-shifting, you might want to grab some popcorn & a beer before reading this thread: (Warning! Wear eye-protection to prevent injuries from facepalming.)
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Sorry Vlad Markov I think I misunderstood your position. It seems we are the same page.
I was referring to the way Dems are still in denial about what really happened. The Russian influence stuff enables them to point the finger elsewhere rather than looking deeply into themselves.
As I’ve said elsewhere, I have no doubt that the Russians have interfered just as the Americans routinely do in other people’s elections (including Russia). This is what countries do. What I was skeptical of was that this interference was significant or decisive. The reality is that Hillary’s campaign was in a bad position electorally and she needed to fight as an underdog candidate against the Republican advantage. Instead the campaign was complacent, ignored all the signs of trouble and obsessed over external forces and the machinations of the FBI.
Meanwhile all those “undecideds” eventually dropped their shyness and did what they had planned to do for a long time but were in many cases too embarrassed to admit: vote in big numbers for Trump. The Russians did not significantly influence that outcome.
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Schrödinger’s independent:
– jerk for trying to vote a Democrat in the primaries
– jerk for not voting a Democrat in the general
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God Emperor Lionel Lauer Hearty LOL on the sunspots concept. Haha.
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At this point the weight of evidence is that Russian Government did help inject or amplify variables that correlated with voting polarity in the election. Indirect tweets by the president himself about the problem of leaks also tell us that Flynn’s (who might be a scapegoat) interactions with Russ .gov were very likely real.
There is not enough to know whether stories of blackmail or compromised agents holds water, however. For that, maximum entropy distribution selected.
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Everyone Is a genius with the benefit of retrospective foresight.
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Well of course and every one is a genius on the internet as well but hindsight does have one advantage which is data. We know now for a fact that the Clinton campaign really did think it could coast to victory on a combination of manifest destiny, historical significance and incumbent legacy. I don’t think many foresaw how wrong that was except those living in the “blue wall” states.
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Any time we discuss the 2016 U.S. presidential election, it should be remembered that the Republicans have increased their % of the governorships in the 2010, 2012, 2014, and 2016 elections. They also won a majority of the House of Representatives seats in every one of those elections. They also have done well in U.S. Senate, and state legislative, elections. The same unwillingness to notice that they were losing the working class which led them to pick HRC in 2016 when she was manifestly unsuited to the political climate, also led them to ignore the fact that they had been doing badly in the three previous elections. I don’t think most Democrats even are aware to this day that they did badly in 2012, because Obama was re-elected and the fact that they lost governorships even while winning the Presidential election didn’t cause any of them to notice a problem. Russia, of course, tried to influence things, but the electoral climate and the Democrats’ tin ear to what the working class was telling them, were much bigger factors.
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Indeed the Democrat fixation with the presidential race is comparable to that of the Green party (which is also not very good at winning elections).
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